I wanted to love these...and they are so close to perfect. However, the gusset on these hits in such a weird place...covers your butt rather than the crotch area. It's strange. And I don't think it's a sizing issue because I am on the lower end of the L/XL so they aren't stretched super far. They are fine for around the house but I wouldn't wear these in public without a very long shirt/tunic that covers the entire rear area.